very creative "conspiracy theory"..... but....Posted byUser:From: anon-spica.free.anonymizer.com On: September 26, 1999 at 19:06:51 In Reply to: Who is responsible for indo-chaos? posted by JUSTICE on September 26, 1999 at 17:43:25: fortunately, more people in this forum are more realistic than you are. you talk as if the indonesian soldier does not have a mind of his own. you talk like people are like robots willing to do as the US commands. this is not so. many western movies portray the US government as an all powerful gov't able to do all these things. and you are one of those who believe this??? you said something about the US bases in Manila. after the Philippine bases agreement expired, how come the US was not able to renew this? if they are indeed as powerful and scheming as you think, this would have been easier for them than building a new base in indonesia! incidentally, aren't the Filipinos more "pro-American" than indonesians? why blame the US for training Kopassus and Suharto? you only prove that your people do not have a your own minds and conscience. are you telling us that if we train you with the latest in military technology, weaponry and torture, you will also kill innocent people??? man! killing innocent people-- priests, nuns, women and children-- is beyond "training"... this is basic human decency!!! has indonesia lost this too???
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